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Idiocy Is Not Determined by Gender

Heartless Bitches International is painfully aware of the fact that there ARE as many moronic women out there as men (You should see some of the REALLY LAME applications for membership!). In the interests of equality, I thought I'd share this little tidbit of correspondence with you.... See? Stupidity is universal.


Part 1: Julie writes (less than eloquently) to express her dismay....

From: "Julie A Kauchak" 
To: <nataliep@heartless-bitches.com>
Subject: who the hell?
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 08:55:05 -0400

Who the hell wrote this page about self-abusive 
relationship's. You obviously have never been in 
a long standing relationship because there happen 
to be hard times that people go through. Life is 
not perfect. You shouldn't bash people for being in 
a relationship. You should try one, they are kind of 
nice. You sound like my frickin' sister who has been 
in a relationship for 7 years now, says she will never 
get married, never have kids. Sounds pretty lonely to 
me. Try reading the book, "Women are from Mars, Men are 
from Venus". It might give you a different perspective on
relationships. Isn't that what friends are for, to lend 
an ear to listen. It doesn't mean they have to like it, 
but sometimes it helps to have someone to talk to. I
think you need to lighten up.

- Julie A Kauchak

Part 2: Natalie Responds to the drivel...(and shows that the point is on Julie's head)

 From: nataliep@heartless-bitches.com
 To: Julie A Kauchak 
 Subject: Re: who the hell?
 Date: Tuesday, September 24, 1996 11:45 AM
 
 
>Who the hell wrote this page about self-abusive 
>relationship's. 
 
Which article are you talking about?  The one about 
self-abusive people who continually get themselves 
in BAD relationships and then go looking for sympathy 
from others?
 
>You obviously have never been in a long standing 
>relationship because there happen to be hard times 
>that people go through. 
 
 *laugh* You obviously haven't got a fucking clue.
 
>Life is not perfect. You shouldn't bash people for 
>being in a relationship. 
 
Learn to read.  The article bashed people for 
pathologically getting into BAD relationships, and 
rewriting history after ending relationships. It did 
not "bash people for being IN a relationship".  Sounds 
to me like you have a hot button there?  A little 
sensitive about people giving you trouble for the kind 
of guys you go out with/marry?
 
>You should try one, they are kind of nice. You sound 
>like my frickin' sister who has been in a relationship 
>for 7 years now, says she will never get married, never
>have kids. Sounds pretty lonely to me. 
 
She has been or hasn't been?  From the tenor of your 
statements, I would guess that you missed the word "not"....
 
Sounds like your sister has more brains than you do.  
Some people are so needy they will put up with just 
about  -anything- just to have a "relationship".  Other 
people actually -like- themselves, and are more discerning 
about who they are willing to make an emotional investment 
with. Just because a person isn't in a "relationship"
doesn't mean they are lonely. At least she knows what she 
wants and is sticking to her principles. She has no 
requirement to live up to YOUR expectations.
 
Why should she get married?  What assurances does that 
piece of paper give her that the other person will not 
fuck around, will treat her with respect, will share and 
work equally in the household?  None.  Look at the divorce 
rate.  All that piece of paper does is set people up to 
take each other for granted.  It's a false sense of 
security, honey.
 
>Try reading the book, "Women are from Mars, Men are 
>from Venus". It might give you a different perspective 
>on relationships.
 
I have.  It's revoltingly stereotyped and inflammatory.  
(not to mention that she got the title wrong...)
 
I have plenty of perspective on relationships, and plenty of
self-respect.  Which is why I'd rather be on my own than 
living with some DORK who treats me like shit 50% of the 
time - just so I can be "in a relationship".  I'd rather be 
lonely than miserable.   I'll bet your sister would agree.
 
The fact is, there ARE decent guys out there.  I know.  I 
have 2 wonderful boyfriends.  But that's because I care 
enough about myself, NOT to settle for some loser just to 
stave off loneliness.  A person who is sitting around lonely 
is either too self-centered, or too lazy.
 
> Isn't that what friends are for, to lend an ear to listen. 
>It doesn't mean they have to like it, but sometimes it helps 
>to have someone to talk to.

So?  What has that got to do with putting up with people who 
continually drag you down, and continually fuck themselves up 
with stupidity? People like that need a psychiatrist.  In fact, 
listening to them and giving them sympathy, does more harm than 
good, because they take no responsibility for getting their 
shit together so long as some fool is willing to give them 
attention for it.  And if you've ever dealt with people like 
that, you'll notice that they only hang around when they are 
feeling bad and need a shoulder. When they are feeling up - they 
don't call for weeks.
 
Maybe -you- need that kind of "friend".  -I- certainly don't.
 
>I think you need to lighten up.
 
I think you are the judgemental pot calling the kettle black.  
Look in the mirror.
 
heartlessly,
 -Natalie

Part 3: Julie attempts a snappy retort.... But dull knives don't cut very well, do they?

From: "Julie A Kauchak" 
To: <nataliep@heartless-bitches.com>
Subject: Re: who the hell?
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 14:48:38 -0400
----------
[she quoted the entire message here, but I won't bore 
you with it]

WOW NATALIE! YOU REALLY ARE A BITCH!
Anyway, in my opinion, I agree with a lot of the 
statements you made. Oh, two boyfriends, huh. Can't 
make up your mind? Don't know what you want? Or maybe 
you like being a slut? 
As a matter of fact, I am in a great relationship. Not
that it is any of your fuckin' business.
You must have had a guy really fuck you over from the 
way you are talking.
Well, haven't we all? Life goes on though, doesn't it? 

Part 4: Natalie takes up the slack....

To: "Julie A Kauchak" 
From: nataliep@heartless-bitches.com
Subject: Re: who the hell?

>WOW NATALIE! YOU REALLY ARE A BITCH!

Julie answers the clue phone...

>Anyway, in my opinion, I agree with a lot of the 
>statements you made. Oh, two boyfriends, huh. Can't 
>make up your mind? Don't know what you want? Or maybe 
>you like being a slut? 

Why does the concept of more than one lover make a 
person a "slut"? You certainly hold some awfully sexist 
and narrow-minded attitudes, but then, given your antiquated 
belief that a woman isn't -whole- unless she gets married 
and has kids, well... your ignorance is not surprising...  

I guess it just means that I am capable of loving more 
than one person at a time.  I hope you never have more than 
one child, given your limited ability to care for people...

>As a matter of fact, I am in a great relationship. Not 
>that it is any of your fuckin' business.

I really couldn't care less whether you are currently fucking 
the dutch national basketball team, or playing solo with your 
shower massage.

>You must have had a guy really fuck you over from the 
>way you are talking.

Y'know, every idiot who tries to flame me falls back on that 
lame old rationalization.  I guess you, (along with the rest 
of the weak-minded), just can't cope with the idea that a woman 
can be strong-willed, independent, free-thinking and assertive, 
without having been fucked-over by someone.  That kind of 
parochial bigotry would be funny, if it weren't so pathetic.

heartlessly unmoved,
-Natalie

Part 5: Julie Gets -Mad-, and changes her moniker in a feeble attempt to be more intimidating....(oooh!)

From: "Julie A Kauchak" 
To: <nataliep@heartless-bitches.com>
Subject: bite me

I hope this is a good show you put on, this tuff, little 
bitch act. If in fact you act this way everyday and all 
the time, I would think you wouldn't have any friends.
Give a shit! I think your comments are ludicrous and you 
have a shitty attitude towards life and if I met you in 
person I would kick your fuckin' ass. 
Bite me, bitch. I don't know how any male gender could put 
up with your ignorant attitude. Don't fuck with me.



Go fuck yourself,
Jules


Part 6: Natalie Stops laughing long enough to pen a response....

From: <nataliep@heartless-bitches.com>
To: Julie A Kauchak 
Subject: Re: bite me

On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Julie A Kauchak wrote:

>I hope this is a good show you put on, this tuff, little 
>bitch act. If in fact you act this way everyday and all 
>the time, I would think you wouldn't have any friends.

Haven't you learned any new insults since high school?  
Yeesh! Your rhetoric is woefully imbecillic.

>Give a shit! I think your comments are ludicrous and you 
>have a shitty attitude towards life and if I met you in 
>person I would kick your fuckin' ass. 

Ah yes.  Threats of violence.  The last bastion of the 
intellectually challenged.

> Bite me, bitch. 

Oooh. Tres originale.

>I don't know how any male gender could put up with your 
>ignorant attitude.

Have no fear.  I'm quite happy that the kind of men who would
find you attractive would NOT be interested in me....

>Don't fuck with me.

Ick. Who'd want to?  (perhaps guys who like their women 
vacuous?)

Do us all favor: Don't breed.

heartlessly bored,
-Natalie

Of course, as a result of this little piece of correspondence, "jules" will undoubtably get email from equally moronic males - writing ostensibly to be "supportive", when they are really just trying to get into her pants...


Additional comments from Holden Shearer:

"Men would not try to get into her pants. Some(one? thing?) who fits THAT easily and happily into her gender-biased societal niche would only wear a dress. Probably with little pink flowers."


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